r/wg21
N5035 - 2026-03 WG21 admin telecon meeting WG21
Posted by u/mailing_completionist · 5 hr. ago

Document: N5035
Author: Guy Davidson
Date: 2026-01-27
Audience: All of WG21

Completing the 2026-02 mailing. Yes, all of it. This one is Guy Davidson's agenda document for the March 2026 WG21 admin telecon — scheduling, logistics, liaison reports, the coordination layer that keeps 150+ national body delegates from arriving with nothing booked.

Already superseded in the mailing index. N5037 replaced it before the meeting took place. Probably a date adjustment or venue confirmation. Happens every cycle.

Guy Davidson is WG21 Convener. This is literally his job in document form. Posting because I committed to posting all of them.

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u/not_a_real_cpp_dev 203 points 4 hr. ago

ok we have officially run out of r/cpp content. commend the effort, deplore the result.

u/build_system_victim_9k 98 points 4 hr. ago

it says 'obsolete; replaced by N5037' in the mailing index title. on filing. he submitted a telecon agenda that was already superseded before it ran. i feel seen.

u/invisible_standards_person 134 points 3 hr. ago

Worth saying briefly what these documents actually are, for people who've never been inside the committee process.

Admin telecoms are the governance layer of standards work. Not the interesting part — no papers get voted in, no technical debates happen. What does happen: the Convener confirms liaison relationships with other ISO working groups, works through the calendar of upcoming face-to-face meetings, resolves scheduling conflicts between subgroup sessions, and handles the organizational formalwork that lets WG21 function as an ISO committee rather than a persistent mailing list with strong opinions.

N5035 being superseded by N5037 is almost certainly a schedule correction — something got confirmed or moved after filing. This is routine. Admin telecon agendas go through one or two revisions before the call happens, every cycle.

The March 2026 telecon would have covered the run-up to C++26's post-feature-freeze review phase. Feature work was essentially done; the committee was transitioning from "what goes in" to "does what went in have correct wording." That transition requires working admin infrastructure — the scheduling calls, the liaison sign-offs, the national body coordination — to actually happen on time.

Guy Davidson has been running this machinery since becoming Convener. The work is completely invisible from the outside until the day the standard publishes with correct liaison headers and the ISO vote passes. Then everyone forgets the scaffolding existed.

u/turbo_allocator_420 56 points 4 hr. ago

Guy Davidson is the WG21 Convener. He is literally the person whose job it is to produce this document. This is the WG21 Convener's scheduling paperwork in PDF form, filed with ISO, publicly accessible on open-std.org. I respect it completely.

u/segfault_enjoyer_cpp 241 points 5 hr. ago

committee gonna committee

u/networking_still_hopeful 71 points 2 hr. ago

every 2026 mailing document I ctrl-f for 'networking' and this one has it in the title and it is still not networking

u/build_system_victim_9k 44 points 1 hr. ago

the Networking TS could theoretically appear on a future admin telecon agenda as a liaison item. i'm choosing to believe this.

u/mailing_completionist 312 points 38 minutes ago

I've now posted every paper from the 2026-02 mailing. First and last time I do this. Three of them were administrative documents, two were working-group minutes, one was a liaison statement with MISRA. AMA.